Новая идея, позволяющая избежать лабораторного обнаружения.

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На днях кто-то написал мне в личные сообщения, спрашивая о способах устранения неизбежных запахов, связанных с подпольными химическими лабораториями. Как известно любому опытному человеку, запахи, возникающие в ходе химических реакций, могут варьироваться от характерных до откровенно эвтаназийных. Я прошелся по списку распространенных методов, таких как старый шланг в туалете, установка водяной завесы, выпуск паров из дымохода, чтобы скрыть их происхождение, и т. д., а затем открыл потенциальную эффективность новой идеи, которую я никогда не видел на практике. И тут на глаза мне попался товар, который я никогда раньше не видел в социальных сетях, и вот он - на ваше рассмотрение. Керамический каталитический сжигатель. Он предназначен для дровяной печи и использует выделяемое ею тепло для нагрева катализатора, но я думаю, что 6-дюймовый элемент горелки, прикрепленный к передней панели, будет работать очень хорошо. С этим в выходной трубе (и элементом горелки), я думаю, можно будет поджарить практически любой запах, а катализатор, горелка и реостат для контроля температуры должны стоить менее 200 долларов США (а горелка и ручка плиты могут быть бесплатными для многих из нас). Я просто решил представить эту идею и открыть диалог для обсуждения потенциала.

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Наверняка фильтр из активированного угля? Как для выращивания травы/ это то, что я видел, как работает... у меня на глазах дома ф/э. Вероятно, это не очень хорошо, но я ничего не чувствую, и у меня не было никаких замечаний от соседей! Ни когда я выращивал траву, ни когда я делал синтез lol
 

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Это круто, но, конечно, для того чтобы активировать реакцию, она должна быть теплой? Я сейчас провожу много холодных реакций, но не знаю, подойдет ли он для этого? Или вы имеете в виду нагревание...
 

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Да, вам придется нагревать его отдельно. Я думаю, я имел в виду, что горелка на лицевой стороне может сработать.
 

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О да, я вижу, извините. Виноват. Довольно круто.
Разве это не то же самое, как работают фильтры из активированного угля? Я полагаю, форма отверстий задерживает запахи? В любом случае, очень круто.
Я думаю, что угольные фильтры, если кто-то их видит, действительно могут быть только сомнительными, так или иначе (я полагаю, если только вы не живете в стране, где вам разрешено выращивать собственную траву (где никто не будет знать, что это за предмет!).
 

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No. -ctuivated carbon filters work on the principle that carbon has a lot of surface are to trap bad smells, but it wont stop vapors from poisoning you. This is a catalytic converter like your car has, it uses high heat to break down gaseous acids bases irritants ect, and as a side note it eliminates odors by exposing them to high heat. Id be surprised if a carbon filter would sustain being gassed by hcl for very long
 

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I live where it is legal, and people still use the carbon filters, so their house doesn't smell like weed, so WVERYONE doesn't know they are growing, that can also invite problems , and we had someone stay with us during harvest one time and she left because there was a lot of weed drying everywhere in the house
 

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Two boxes and some spray foam?
 

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A veil cover that allows air ventilation

Activate charcoal (absorb pollution and fumes)

Avoid acquaintances and strangers from having any sort of information knowledge of such a clandestine lab

Do not have your laboratory supplies nor lab chemicals no drugs shipped via parcel mail to the same address that you do your lab cooking

Night time

Invest in a fume hood

Don't have a reason for law enforcement to be knocking on the door of the place where you have your laboratory
 

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One of the hardest lessons I've ever learned."dont make the mistake thinking yours is the first snakeless crew .the world don't give a f*ck about your life or what you're going through "
 

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Would be funny to see if you could just use a cat converter from a car x3
Actually thats not a bad idea
Maybe worth a shot..?
 

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I'm sure it would work if you can get the cats up to temperature. That's the whole trick, in your car the exhaust heats it up to a pretty high temperature. I've heard of people smashing the catalyst and using it in reaction, platinum and pallidium.
 

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Yeah ive used them as is with some vapour phase stuff works great just use a heating strip to get it up 2 temp
 

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We are basically just leading our fumes into a DIY furnace chimney here, no? One could easily set up a succession of various traps to lead and scrub fumes through. Down the drain. Buckets of kitty litter. Other tubes of filter charcoal and what not. High temp is a less popular choice (and one of the better options if you can do it, I think) It would be best to destroy as much 'evidence' as possible on the way out before you try to clean and obscure it before it is dispersed back into the world.
 

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couldnt you also lead the gases into the air intake of a bunsen? Should also work obviously smaller scale though
 

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This is the right idea. IDK if a bunsen would burn hot enough? You want those ridiculously high industrial temps.
 

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You arent gonna get much hotter with this thingy because you're going to have to heat it separately.........probably with a bunsen....

Also look up the temp of a gas flame it is definitely higher than the decomp temp of all possible products in any synthesis really.
 

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I'd say its more about contacting the most surface area, a flame wouldn't be that efficient, but if you had some sort of hot metal screen to blow the air through, ike a catalytic converter has...Setting up to run it down your drain pipe, pushed past the water trap has been the popular way since the 80's. I've known people who go to a hotel and make meth at at the hotel, usinf this method and in thier mind it's safer because thety aren't at home, . I can see benefits of it, but Depending on your situation it may not be any safer. I've caught people cooking meth in a hotel before. People I didn't know. They were lucky it was me who caught them because I acted like I didn't see or smell anything someone else might have turned them in. Matter of fact, its a local hotel and it has been modified to have a secret room where they make meth steadily
 

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