Ühe poti amfetamiini süntees P2NP-st NaBH4/CuCl2-ga (1kg skaala)

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Tere kõigile. Proovisin selle retsepti abil väikeses mahus amfetamiini valmistada, kuid ebaõnnestusin. Kõik tundus ok, pärast kuivatamist nägi minu toode välja nagu valge pulber, millel oli punakas varjund. Kui tegemist oleks amfetamiinsulfaadiga (mida ma üritasin teha), oleks saagis 84%. Probleem on selles, et see ei ole amfetamiin.

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Ma proovisin 20-30 mg, kindlasti tekkis stimulatsioon, kuid samuti põhjustas see palavikku ja ilmselt immuunsuse langust: mõlemal korral, kui ma seda mitu päeva järjest võtsin, haigestusin hingamisteede infektsiooni (esimesel korral arvasin, et see oli juhus). Teine inimene, kes seda võttis, ei kogenud kuni 90 mg-st mingit stimulatsiooni, vaid ainult mõningast suukuivust. Kummalgi meist ei ole mingit tolerantsust stimulantide suhtes.

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1 g pulbrit lahustub täielikult 10 ml H2O-s.
Kui ma lisasin mõõdetud pulbri massile katseklaasis üleliigset NaOH lahust, sain umbes õiges mahus ammoniaagi lõhnaga vababaasi. Eraldasin freebaasikihi, kuivatasin selle CaCl2-ga ja proovisin seda happega tiitrida. Tulemusena mõõtsin freebaasi molaarse massi umbes 171 (ja amfetamiini puhul 135). Kuigi minu mõõtmised ei olnud väga täpsed, on erinevus siiski liiga suur, et seda saaks seletada ainult mõõtmisvigadega.

Minu kõrvalekalded menetlusest

1) P2NP lisamisel sain aru, et see võtab tunde, seega muutusin kannatamatuks ja kastsin reaktsioonikolvi toatemperatuuril olevasse veevanni. Pärast seda sain P2NP-d peaaegu korraga lisada ja segu temperatuur ei ületanud 40-50 °С.
2) Ma järgisin videot, mistõttu ma ei aurustanud IPA-d ja lisasin IPA/vabaasi kihile otse konts. väävelhapet.
3) Mul ei olnud hetkel atsetooni, mistõttu ma ei lisanud seda enne hapestamist ja pesin filtreeritud "amfetamiinsulfaat"-pastat IPAga.
4) IPA on vähem lenduv kui atsetoon, nii et pidin oma sette mitu tundi ahju panema, et see püsiva kaaluni kuivatada. Temperatuur ahjus ei ületanud 80 °С.

Niisiis, suur küsimus on, kus läks valesti? Ma ei oleks üllatunud madala saagise või üldse mitte mingi toote saamise üle, aga saada hea saagise amiini, mis ei ole amfetamiin?!
 
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The method as described here lacks all product workup/cleanup and and as such provides a very dirty and unclean Amphetamine, in special as NasBH4 reductions are all not giving very clean product. Purple MDMA and such.
I know the physiological effects like fever like very well and it is just the missing cleaning trust me.
There are several ways to do the workup, from distillation, normal, vacuum or steam of the base or dissolving the sulfate in water and washing this several times with toluene or petrolether or my favorite: 50/50 mix of petrol ether and Ethylacetate. Then evaporate the water and wash the resulting salt with copious amounts of Acetone and petrol ether as last. Already the simple washings give you a consumable product which does not make you sick like the crap which contains borate salts or else.
 

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Even with the dirtiest amp he would have felt it just fine....guaranteed he got "almost amp" mainly riddled with hydroxylamine. This reaction goes south on people all the time. They have wayyyy too much nabh4 left when it's time to add the copper and with the heat the nanoparticles aggregate and become completely useless as a catalyst....fully useless... and leave semi reduced product. The only way I've been able to get around that is by reducing 1st in methanol/thf to propane then extracting and then using anyone of the zinc/formic acid combos.... for the nitro. Zero Michael addition.
 

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I tried it today, but something must have gone wrong..I followed the instructions exactly, but in the end there is more than there should be. What could have happened? Can anyone give me advice? Can it be cleaned? Thank you for every answer
 

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Please. How do I have a reaction more nabh4? I threw in for 6 hours but still not much nabh4 dissolved. In the end, when I added acid, the whole thing thickened after filtration, a white substance remained, but I suppose it's nabh4.. I followed the instructions I don't know what's wrong.
 

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My mescaline guide might help for 1 or 2 mol amounts. Possibly up to 500 g+ in a 20 L reaction vessel.

The same procedure for P2NP as with Mescaline nitrostyrene, however I do not know if it is more reactive. Have not worked with it.

Take a look here:

Or posted here (if starting from benzaldehyde):
 

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My friend and I always cooked amphetamine in the forest.
That is, for synthesis we really only needed 3 construction basins, Phenyl-nitropropene, several boxes of mercury thermometers, hydrochloric acid, gasoline and some special ribbons that show the reaction.

My role was always bring and serve, but we produced this product of 99.8% purity.
We had no competition in Moscow :/
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we didn't use fucking acetone because it's bad for your health
 
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What is the salt of amphetamine present on this photos?
 
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At one point in Russia, they suddenly cut off the liquid propen supply—left a bunch of wannabe cooks totally clueless. Product turned out nasty as hell, colors ranging from sketchy pinks to filthy yellows and straight-up horrifying oranges. But my homie was different—he was one of the few who knew the synthesis inside and out. Back in the day, he cooked pristine pervitin for the whole block, but dude got busted—hit him with a solid 20-year stretch. Luckily there’s a war poppin' off, so he'll probably get tossed onto the front lines and bounce back home early. Then we'll pick right back up where we left off.
 

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but you say "...3 construction basins, Phenyl-nitropropene, several boxes of mercury thermometers, hydrochloric acid, gasoline and some special ribbons..." and in your list of reagents only hydrochloric acid
 

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I can hit him up and get the full cook recipe—it's fuckin' one-of-a-kind.
 

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in this synthesis using only this reagents "...Phenyl-nitropropene, several boxes of mercury thermometers, hydrochloric acid, gasoline and some special ribbons..." amp sulfate cannot be obtained.

with hydrochloric acid obtain amp hydrochloride
with sulphuric acid obtain amp sulphate
 

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Your reagents list remind different synthesis way (Al/Hg approach). Why did you write this post under NaBH4 method? It's, also, interesting about HCl and sulphate salt.
 
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