Oopiumi toorest must tõrva

[G.Patton]

Teil on õigus. Morfiini atsetüleerimiseks võite lisada 5-6 sammu vahel äädikhappeanhüdriidi. Reguleerige pH ~3 ja pärast ühe tunni pikkust segamist neutraliseerige naatriumbikarbonaadiga pH-ni ~5,5-6.

 

[Nikolas]

Tere J. Patton, Tänan teid toreda artikli eest. Kas te sünteesite selle toote lihtsalt kuivatatud moonikapslitest? Sünteesimisel ei kasutatud oopiumi?

 

[Nikolas]

Jah, ma nimetan seda toodet oopiumiks... aga te kasutasite ainult kuivi kapsleid, kas mul on õigus?

 

[G.Patton]

See meetod on kirjutatud musta tõrva tootmise jaoks. Saate valmistada heroiini lateksist, must tõrv on palju kehvem toode.

 

[Nikolas]

Täname selgituste eest

 

[Nikolas]

Kasutan tekstide tõlkimiseks Translite'i. Kas te mõtlete sidrunimahla, sidrunhapet? Või kasutate looduslikku sidrunimahla? Mida te mõtlete sidrunimahla all?

 

[G.Patton]

Sidrunimahl tähendab vedelikku, mida pressitakse sidruniviljadest.

 

[Zippy53]

Ma järgisin väga lihtsat ja hästi kirjeldatud retsepti ja suutsin ekstraheerida väga hea suitsutatava palli tooropiumi... Tänan härra Pattonit kergesti järgitavate juhiste eest!
Kas teil on nüüd kogemusi, kas te võtate ekstraheeritud oopiumikummi ja valmistate morfiin hcl?

 

[Dr.Mirakulix]

Tore! Kui palju moona te kasutasite?

On olemas dokument, milles on väga hästi dokumenteeritud ja selgitatud morfiini eraldamise protsess toorest oopiumist (ja ka edasine töötlemine ja rafineerimine, et saada üsna kõrge protsendiline heroiin), nagu seda teevad afgaani moonikasvatajad.
Ma ei ole seda veel ise proovinud, kuid teen seda kindlasti lähinädalatel. Võib-olla keegi teine oskab helistada ja öelda midagi selle kohta, kas ja kuidas on võimalik ekstraheerimistehnikat vähendada, et see sobiks väikese oopiumisaagiga kodukasvatusest vms.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Nice post! Awesome simple little heroin tek.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

Oleksin isiklikult väga huvitatud selle välja nägemisest. See lahendaks minu jaoks PALJU probleeme. See näeb välja ja kõlab suurepäraselt @Zippy53! Kas tohib küsida, kas sa jälgisid kasvatamist isiklikult või kuidas saab tooraineid hankida? Ma elan põhjapoolses kliimas, täpsemalt Bostoni lähedal - ma ei usu, et neid saab hooajaliselt õues kasvatada? Mul on LED-valgusti või kaks marihuaana kasvatamiseks, see ei tohiks olla probleemiks, et kapis oleks moona või kaks? Kui kaua kulub idanemisest saagikoristuseni? Kas on usaldusväärne seemnemüüja keset? Ilmselt leian kasvatamiseks infot erowidist kui mitte siit...
Aitäh juba ette, et mu rumalaid küsimusi meelelahutatakse. Parimad soovid.

 

[SoldadoDeDrogas]

To answer some my own naive questions. Poppies grow just fine in northern climates, some even prefer. Seeds which can be acquired in abundance, grocery store variety are active but weak, better strains can be found online, can be cast effortlessly and without much care onto loose soil almost anywhere during autumn or early spring and these things will grow. Indoors works but outdoor is better - you need alot more than 1 or 2. It only takes 2-3 months from start to finish. If sewn in autumn, they hibernate of course.

 

[Chemtrail]

Swim absolutely loves this science article !!!!

question, what would happen if the temperature where to go above 60 C ???

What do you mean by "activate' ???

 

[mewnmewamine]

Im assuming he means they will decompose but id like to see a source because those temps sure as shit aint true they're wayyyy too low and you can literally smoke morphine! Like thats what he is suggesting you do anyway ^^
on top of that morphine can be purified by sublimation at 190°C lol
So do not worry about the heat
(0-o)

 

[Chemtrail]

Swim looked up on a search engine " codiene activates 68 celsius "

... The author of this BB post isn't talking about a CYP2D6 enzyme of metabolism? Lol

But got this : What temperature does codeine degrade?

As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.

Concentrations of the Opium Alkaloids Morphine, Codeine, and Thebaine in Poppy Seeds are Reduced after Thermal and Washing Treatments but are Not Affected when Incorporated in a Model Baked Product - PMC

Limited information exists on the effectiveness of potential treatments to reduce levels of opium alkaloids that may be present in seeds from poppy (Papaver somniferum L.). Poppy seeds containing morphine at relatively lower (14.7 mg kg−1) and ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

HERE'S FROM THIS SCIENCE ARTICLE:
"The results from the heat treatment experiments indicated that the three major opium alkaloids are relatively stable. At 120 °C, minimal, if any, alkaloid degradation was observed after 120 min. With the experimental temperature at 200 °C, the half-life of morphine and codeine was found to be approximately 32–39 min, while thebaine was only 3 min. As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.30 Use of heat treatments in this range of temperatures to promote opium alkaloid degradation would not likely be useful, as they will likely affect the sensory aspects of poppy seeds."

***THIS SCIENCE ARTICLE ALSO ILLUSTRATED THAT THERE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE ARE OPIUM ALKALOIDS IN POPPY SEEDS ! ***

Swim used a search engine "morphine activates 82 C"

The author of this BB post isn't talking about "a signal on a G protein cascade " ? Lol

But got this : What temperature does morphine break down?

As a comparison, a previous report found that 80–90% of morphine and codeine degraded after 20 min at 220 °C, although the actual starting opium alkaloid concentration was not indicated.

Concentrations of the Opium Alkaloids Morphine, Codeine, and Thebaine in Poppy Seeds are Reduced after Thermal and Washing Treatments but are Not Affected when Incorporated in a Model Baked Product - PMC

Limited information exists on the effectiveness of potential treatments to reduce levels of opium alkaloids that may be present in seeds from poppy (Papaver somniferum L.). Poppy seeds containing morphine at relatively lower (14.7 mg kg−1) and ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

*∆ Great Link about Poppy Seeds !

 

[Chemtrail]

Effect of thermal treatment on opium alkaloids

(See chart in attachment)