What are the potential risks for ordering precursors?

[abis777]

Hello, I would like to do my first order of precursors and I was wondering about the risks of online orders (police involvement) . I guess that the risk is determined 90% by the method of the seller, but I don't know much about that. What is your experience and belief about online orders? And maybe you have some tips to do it as safe as possible. Thanks in advance

 

[Dr. MMX]

Police isnt stupid but they are slow with limited resouces and tehy have to play with the law

 

[DieYoung]

I been buying gods for 4 years i just have one bad expirience justn on order from UK , i oreder betten 25 or 50 timens and my last two order don t arrive for me its 99% sefe order on internet i hope evrythinks gona go like allWAYS

 

[Osmosis Vanderwaal]

What country are you in?

 

[abis777]

balkanic country

 

[HIGGS BOSSON]

The main problem when buying chemical reagents is customs clearance. If you order from a local supplier, then there should be no problems. When ordering from Asia, you need to negotiate with the seller for customs clearance of the goods. It is quite difficult to do this on your own, although it is also possible if you have a company. You also need to understand the legality status of the goods you want to order.

 

[Chemtrail]

Your not gonna be 100% safe and clear
But there's a few ways to reduce risks when buying precursors ..

*Don't buy all the ingredients for the drug all in one shopping order

*Don't be buying more than a 5 gallon of chemicals in a short time interval

*LIST ONE CHEMICALS ARE THE BIGGEST RED FLAG CHEMICALS ... but a small pint or Liter once in a blue moon should be okay

*Do not give your real name nor your real personal home address

*Do not mail precursor chemicals to the same mailing address where you do your clandestine drug cooks

*If you don't trust your fellow friends with your 17-year-old virgin sister, then don't be telling or bragging to any of your friends about your clandestine drug cooks

*Do not sign for packages

*Do not throw away your laboratory trash in front of your home on trash day .. cops can legally pick up your trash to search for criminal evidence .. throw lab trash at a nearby gas station public trash bin

*Take a look at your surrounding neighborhood ..

.. if you feel anything is off like as if you feel like drug law enforcement is investigating you, then stop stop stop laboratory operation for at least a couple months !! It cost money for law enforcement to sit around conducting an investigation and if there's nothing going on for months then law enforcement investigation will just stop


* Here's another thread on Chemical Acquisition

https://bbgate.com/en/threads/chemical-acquisition.16733/

 

[Chemtrail]

When picking up a suspicious package, do not drive straight to your own true real home
or clandestine cook site

Instead, go round n bout. Go off roading, take care of another erron, go to the bar, take the long way home.




Buy package overnight shipping, more expensive but if any prolonged delay then you have reason to be suspicious something is wrong
And it gives less time for law enforcement to fuck with your package

 

[Chemtrail]

Strikes book "Sources"

Clandestine Drug Laboratory by Jack B Nimble

Great books about chemical acquisition, drug police expectations, and chemical precursor + legal relative info ; for an amateur clandestine individual and/or operate a "fake business"



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*Someone should post a thread about "running a fake business"
PLEASE !!
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80% of the time if you tell the science company your a business, then they will "open their arms" for you .

The chemical store outlets won't sell to individuals because it's more of an insurance than just being jack-asses

At first, ask for their catalog list of products, next order simple stuff like a glass beaker and acetic acid. Build a creditential trust before diving in and buying loads of precursors from the start.

Science companies rrreeeaaaallllyyyyyy do want to sell off their products! They want to sell products and make money

The science companies are actually bothered by drug police when asked for sale reports. Those science companies sometimes get threatened close down their science business if there's " some conspiracy connection with drug manufacture" (meth is the biggest target for drug police in the US especially those cold pills)
The science chemical glassware stores get as frustrated as you are Evil Chemist.

The science stores actually DONT try to get you arrested by drug police. It's more of handing off sales reports to the drug police at such a seasonal cycle (by months?)
Of course those List 1 and List 2 are HOT to drug police
There's also a Special Survalence of precursor chemicals


*SOMEBODY START A THREAD ON OPERATING A FAKE BUSINESS*

 

[Chemtrail]

Have someone else buy it for you

 

[dnBQByvHb8Zkawbjpx]

That is usually a bad idea, unless that someone else is in on the plan and ready and willing to fend off customs/LEO inquiries in case of seized shipments or investigation into the matter. Most people like friends and family are not ready to do that and will fold at the first opportunity, happily providing all the information for whom they were receiving stuff, usually accompanied by "it was weird for them to ask me to receive it and they didn't want to tell me what it was about", because "they don't want no trouble".

My advice is exactly the opposite. Don't involve any more people than absolutely necessary. Most people don't know their rights, the dos and don'ts of talking to LEOs, and they have no real motivation to protect you if it means inconvenience to them, even as small as attending a police interview to answer "No, I've never, don't know, don't know, I have not, I take the 5th".

 

[miner21]

They could be sized. I guess if you order a lot it could open an investigation