En ny idé i forhold til at undgå laboratoriedetektion.

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Forleden var der en, der sendte mig en privat besked, hvor han spurgte, hvordan man kunne fjerne den uundgåelige lugt, der er forbundet med hemmelige kemiske laboratorier. Som alle med erfaring ved, kan lugte, der opstår under kemiske reaktioner, variere fra særprægede til decideret dødshjælp. Jeg gennemgik listen over almindelige metoder, som den gamle slange ned i toilettet, et vandtæppe, at slippe dampene ud af skorstenen for at sløre oprindelsen osv, og så åbnede jeg for den potentielle effektivitet af en ny idé, som jeg aldrig har set i praksis. Pludselig dukkede der et produkt op på min skærm i en Amazon-annonce på de sociale medier, som jeg aldrig havde set før, og her er det til jeres overvejelse. En keramisk katalysator. Den er til en brændeovn og bruger den varme, den producerer, til at opvarme katalysatoren, men jeg tror, at et 6" brændeovnselement, der er spændt fast foran, ville fungere rigtig godt. Med dette i dit udgangsrør (og brænderelementet) tror jeg, at det ville riste næsten enhver lugt, og katalysatoren, brænderen og en reostat til at styre temperaturen burde koste under 200 USD helt nyt (og en brænder og en komfurknap kunne være gratis for mange af os). Jeg tænkte bare, at jeg ville præsentere ideen og åbne en dialog for at diskutere potentialet.

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Sikkert aktivt kulfilter? som til dyrkning af ukrudt / det er, hvad jeg har set arbejde ... foran mine øjne derhjemme f / e. Sandsynligvis ahotty, men hey ho, jeg kan ikke lugte noget, og jeg har ikke haft nogen omtale fra mine naboer! Ikke da jeg dyrkede ukrudt, eller når jeg laver synteser lol
 

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Det er sejt, men det skal vel også være varme reaktioner, for at det kan aktiveres? Jeg laver en masse iskolde reaktioner i øjeblikket.... ville det fungere til det? Eller mener du at opvarme den separat?
 

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Ja, man er nødt til at opvarme det separat. Jeg tror, jeg nævnte, at en brænder på forsiden kunne fungere.
 

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Åh ja, det ser jeg, undskyld. Det var min fejl. Det er ret sejt.
Er det ikke i bund og grund på samme måde, som aktive kulfiltre fungerer? Jeg går ud fra, at hullernes form fanger lugten? Ret sejt uanset hvad.
Med kulfiltre er det vel sådan, at hvis nogen ser det, kan det kun være tvivlsomt på den ene eller anden måde (medmindre man bor i et land, hvor man har lov til at dyrke sit eget ukrudt, for så er der ingen, der ved, hvad ovenstående er!
 

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No. -ctuivated carbon filters work on the principle that carbon has a lot of surface are to trap bad smells, but it wont stop vapors from poisoning you. This is a catalytic converter like your car has, it uses high heat to break down gaseous acids bases irritants ect, and as a side note it eliminates odors by exposing them to high heat. Id be surprised if a carbon filter would sustain being gassed by hcl for very long
 

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I live where it is legal, and people still use the carbon filters, so their house doesn't smell like weed, so WVERYONE doesn't know they are growing, that can also invite problems , and we had someone stay with us during harvest one time and she left because there was a lot of weed drying everywhere in the house
 

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Two boxes and some spray foam?
 

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A veil cover that allows air ventilation

Activate charcoal (absorb pollution and fumes)

Avoid acquaintances and strangers from having any sort of information knowledge of such a clandestine lab

Do not have your laboratory supplies nor lab chemicals no drugs shipped via parcel mail to the same address that you do your lab cooking

Night time

Invest in a fume hood

Don't have a reason for law enforcement to be knocking on the door of the place where you have your laboratory
 

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One of the hardest lessons I've ever learned."dont make the mistake thinking yours is the first snakeless crew .the world don't give a f*ck about your life or what you're going through "
 

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Would be funny to see if you could just use a cat converter from a car x3
Actually thats not a bad idea
Maybe worth a shot..?
 

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I'm sure it would work if you can get the cats up to temperature. That's the whole trick, in your car the exhaust heats it up to a pretty high temperature. I've heard of people smashing the catalyst and using it in reaction, platinum and pallidium.
 

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Yeah ive used them as is with some vapour phase stuff works great just use a heating strip to get it up 2 temp
 

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We are basically just leading our fumes into a DIY furnace chimney here, no? One could easily set up a succession of various traps to lead and scrub fumes through. Down the drain. Buckets of kitty litter. Other tubes of filter charcoal and what not. High temp is a less popular choice (and one of the better options if you can do it, I think) It would be best to destroy as much 'evidence' as possible on the way out before you try to clean and obscure it before it is dispersed back into the world.
 

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couldnt you also lead the gases into the air intake of a bunsen? Should also work obviously smaller scale though
 

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This is the right idea. IDK if a bunsen would burn hot enough? You want those ridiculously high industrial temps.
 

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You arent gonna get much hotter with this thingy because you're going to have to heat it separately.........probably with a bunsen....

Also look up the temp of a gas flame it is definitely higher than the decomp temp of all possible products in any synthesis really.
 

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I'd say its more about contacting the most surface area, a flame wouldn't be that efficient, but if you had some sort of hot metal screen to blow the air through, ike a catalytic converter has...Setting up to run it down your drain pipe, pushed past the water trap has been the popular way since the 80's. I've known people who go to a hotel and make meth at at the hotel, usinf this method and in thier mind it's safer because thety aren't at home, . I can see benefits of it, but Depending on your situation it may not be any safer. I've caught people cooking meth in a hotel before. People I didn't know. They were lucky it was me who caught them because I acted like I didn't see or smell anything someone else might have turned them in. Matter of fact, its a local hotel and it has been modified to have a secret room where they make meth steadily
 

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Speaking of the devil, just made a post on the legal section with this attachment..

This book is all about avoid lab detection !

GREAT INFO :)
 

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