Pridobivanje opija iz celega maka!

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Pozdravljeni vsi, imam 50 makov, ki rastejo, do zdaj so že odcveteli. Zanimalo me je pridobivanje opija iz celotne rastline, saj se mi zdi izluščenje makovih strokov potrata maka, ker celotna rastlina vsebuje alkaloide.

Vendar nisem prepričan, kako naj to storim, naj ga odtrgam iz zemlje, operem in nato skuham v vodi, prefiltriram in nato izhlapim vodo?

Ali kakšen postopek bi bil boljši?
 

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To sploh ni škoda, če želite 2-kratni donos ali večji, saj bo mak, ko je pravilno ocenjen, še naprej izločal lateks, po katerem ste prišli, in še naprej izdeloval More, kar se ne bi zgodilo samo z rezanjem.. še vedno bo delovalo, čeprav jih dajte v lonec z vodo in rahlo kuhanje filtriranje strganje, vendar mi je všeč, da ločite stebla od strokov in kuhanje in zmanjšanje, kot ste rekli..
 

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To je način, kako se to naredi - izvleček celotne rastline. Naberite jo, posušite do kosti in zmeljite čim bolj fino. Alkohol (katerikoli) je najprimernejše topilo, voda nikakor ni dobra.
 
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Zakaj ne voda? Ali lahko podrobneje opišete metodo? ali naj jih pobiram, ko so suhe, ker jih običajno pobiram, ko so na vrhuncu zrelosti, ko imajo največ opija aka so še zelene.
 

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Če je minilo 5-7 dni po tem, ko so odpadli vsi cvetni lističi, bi morali dobiti dober donos, če kuhate z vodo, vendar ne presegajte 80 C (mislim, da je najbolje 45 C), saj lahko začne razpadati morfij. Vsekakor bi morali enega od njih strgati ali narezati in preveriti, ali se iz njega začne cediti dobrota.
 
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T 3

Swim would like to ask if it's okay with you if you provided a reference regarding thermo temperature of opioid alkaloids decomposition
Please
 

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Its total bullshit they probably took from that writeup someone did on "black tar" (wasnt even heroin XD)

No they do not decompose at that temp morphine is purified by sublimation frequently in lit *and u can smoke it lmaooo*
 

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My God guys... Sublimation?
You can check the properties for Morphine. The search engine is free.


Morphine is more readily soluable in ether or chloroform rather than water, because it is basic in its natural form. We must use an acidic solution to get it to convert into water soluable salt. It said it can be isolated with the precise pH, That and I guess you have to salt twice if you want it super clean, since it starts as base.

I have heard that slicing the pods does indeed provide more latex material. However, overall the same amount of alkaloids are generally there. In other words, the latex has a diminishing quality/return - it turns into water weight?. Harvest all at once when dry, less effort. You might need some latex to get to work though, whatever is clever.
 

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Th pharma producers plant acres, cut them off with combain and press them to make a poppy straw from which they get the codeine morphine or thebaine, less yield as the popy will not produce a few yields but much less work, you must look into production of that popy straw :)
 
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