Простой синтез Δ8-ТГК без растворителей, вопросы

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Здравствуйте, я наткнулся на это на youtube и хотел поделиться и спросить, есть ли у кого-нибудь опыт в этом, или импровизации, так как я планирую сделать большой масштаб. Английский - не мой родной язык, так что извините за ошибки
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CBD (25 г) смешивается с P-TSA (0,5 г) и помещается на горячую плиту, установленную на 120C, перемешивается и нагревается в течение часа. После этого смесь содержит 75% Delta 8 THC, 2,5% Delta 9 THC, 4% CBDA, 5% exo-THC, 10% iso-THC.

Мой главный вопрос: можно ли будет курить эту смесь после смывания кислоты водой и основанием, и можно ли получить Δ9, нагрев ее до 70C и продержав там дольше. Я уже видел методы получения Δ9, но с использованием растворителей, а я хочу избежать этого, потому что избавляться от литров толуола - та еще морока по сравнению с этим. Также, возможно ли удалить красный цвет.
 

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Вы должны использовать растворитель. И другие условия работы с этим реагентом
 

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There is a whole website devoted to cannabis extraction, which also includes a grip of CBD>D8 or d9.
PTSA is one way, I believe there is also a catalyst required.
I haven't been doing canna work for a few years and never did those reactions, but there are several paths that use different chemicals some make a lot of d8, some make a lot of d9, but ZERO people , and these are weed chemists a lot of them, have make d8 that does not have d9, and chromotography won't seperated them(what I read was a lot of solvent to seperated and the cost is crazy.

The d9 conversion is just as potent as distillate from weed, but it has a dif flavor(not that distillate has flavor, but yeah)
 

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Further more, unless you have a grip of solventless CBD, then I don't know what you would start with solventless, because you are still using poisonous shit, and none of it is organic , even if the CBD is which I doubt(I am an organic cannabis farmer, and despise shit that's not organic trying to sound healthy). Start with bulk EtOH crude, clean it dewax it filter it, recover the solvent, and crash out the CBD, super simple as cbda will crash with no effort, and then you will be starting with a pure product
 

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i did it, not that complicated but the temp and time have a lot of impact, the cleanup is pretty easy since ptsa dissolves well in water, and what do you mean by "PTSA is one way, I believe there is also a catalyst required." ptsa is the catalyst. for d9 you just do room temp in toluene, also not complicated but its painful to evaporate and wash out the toluene later, but doable, i havent played with this for a long time now
 

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Oh I still think it would need to be distilled in the short path, in order to purify it
 

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There is no way PTSA would give you a d9 (unless you are okay with 30% unconverted CBD). Tried it with temperatures -20-80.
 

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I believe pTSA in toluene does.
 

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Maybe not, I can't find it
 

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Well, depends on what you define as the conversion really. But toluene (RT - drop it, zero chance on conversion whatsoever. Reflux - d8, low yield )
I havent yet encountered a "hot" method for selective d9. But defo not pTSA
 
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