O idee nouă în ceea ce privește evitarea detectării în laborator.

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Zilele trecute, cineva mi-a trimis un mesaj privat în care mă întreba cum pot fi eliminate mirosurile inevitabile asociate laboratoarelor chimice clandestine. După cum știe oricine are experiență, mirosurile produse în timpul reacțiilor chimice pot varia de la distinctive la de-a dreptul eutanasice. Am trecut în revistă lista metodelor obișnuite, cum ar fi vechiul furtun în toaletă, instalarea unei perdele de apă, degajarea fumului prin coșul de fum pentru a ascunde originea etc., apoi m-am gândit la eficacitatea potențială a unei idei noi pe care nu am văzut-o niciodată în practică. Iată că un produs a apărut pe ecranul meu într-un adaos Amazon pe social media pe care nu l-am mai văzut până acum și iată-l pentru considerația dvs. Un combuster catalitic ceramic. Acesta este destinat unei sobe pe lemne și utilizează căldura produsă de aceasta pentru a încălzi catalizatorul, dar cred că un element de arzător de sobă de 6" legat în față ar funcționa foarte bine. Cu aceasta în conducta de ieșire (și elementul arzătorului), cred că ar putea prăji aproape orice miros, iar catalizatorul, arzătorul și un reostat pentru controlul temperaturii ar trebui să coste sub 200 USD nou-nouț (iar un arzător și un buton de aragaz ar putea fi gratuite pentru mulți dintre noi). M-am gândit doar să prezint ideea și să deschid un dialog pentru a discuta potențialul.

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Cu siguranță filtru de cărbune activat? ca pentru cultivarea buruienilor/ asta am văzut iv funcționând...în fața ochilor mei acasă f/e. Probabil ahotty, dar hei ho, eu nu pot mirosi nimic și iv nu a avut nici o mențiuni de la vecinii mei! Nu când cultivam iarbă sau când făceam sinteze lol
 

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Este rece, deși, de asemenea, cu siguranță, acestea ar trebui să fie reacții calde pentru a activa? Fac o mulțime de reacții reci ca gheața la mo....ar funcționa pentru asta? Sau vrei să spui să-l încălzesc seperatelay...
 

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Da, ar trebui să o încălzești separat. Cred că am vrut să spun că un arzător de sobă pe față ar putea funcționa
 

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Oh, da, înțeleg, îmi pare rău. Greșeala mea. Destul de tare.
Nu este în esență același mod în care funcționează filtrele cu carbon activ? Presupun că forma găurilor captează mirosurile? Destul de tare oricum.
Cred că în cazul filtrelor cu cărbune, dacă cineva îl vede, nu poate fi decât dubios, într-un fel sau altul (presupun că dacă nu locuiți într-o țară în care vi se permite să vă cultivați propria iarbă (unde nimeni nu ar ști ce este obiectul de mai sus!)
 

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No. -ctuivated carbon filters work on the principle that carbon has a lot of surface are to trap bad smells, but it wont stop vapors from poisoning you. This is a catalytic converter like your car has, it uses high heat to break down gaseous acids bases irritants ect, and as a side note it eliminates odors by exposing them to high heat. Id be surprised if a carbon filter would sustain being gassed by hcl for very long
 

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I live where it is legal, and people still use the carbon filters, so their house doesn't smell like weed, so WVERYONE doesn't know they are growing, that can also invite problems , and we had someone stay with us during harvest one time and she left because there was a lot of weed drying everywhere in the house
 

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Two boxes and some spray foam?
 

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A veil cover that allows air ventilation

Activate charcoal (absorb pollution and fumes)

Avoid acquaintances and strangers from having any sort of information knowledge of such a clandestine lab

Do not have your laboratory supplies nor lab chemicals no drugs shipped via parcel mail to the same address that you do your lab cooking

Night time

Invest in a fume hood

Don't have a reason for law enforcement to be knocking on the door of the place where you have your laboratory
 

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One of the hardest lessons I've ever learned."dont make the mistake thinking yours is the first snakeless crew .the world don't give a f*ck about your life or what you're going through "
 

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Would be funny to see if you could just use a cat converter from a car x3
Actually thats not a bad idea
Maybe worth a shot..?
 

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I'm sure it would work if you can get the cats up to temperature. That's the whole trick, in your car the exhaust heats it up to a pretty high temperature. I've heard of people smashing the catalyst and using it in reaction, platinum and pallidium.
 

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Yeah ive used them as is with some vapour phase stuff works great just use a heating strip to get it up 2 temp
 

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We are basically just leading our fumes into a DIY furnace chimney here, no? One could easily set up a succession of various traps to lead and scrub fumes through. Down the drain. Buckets of kitty litter. Other tubes of filter charcoal and what not. High temp is a less popular choice (and one of the better options if you can do it, I think) It would be best to destroy as much 'evidence' as possible on the way out before you try to clean and obscure it before it is dispersed back into the world.
 

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couldnt you also lead the gases into the air intake of a bunsen? Should also work obviously smaller scale though
 

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This is the right idea. IDK if a bunsen would burn hot enough? You want those ridiculously high industrial temps.
 

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You arent gonna get much hotter with this thingy because you're going to have to heat it separately.........probably with a bunsen....

Also look up the temp of a gas flame it is definitely higher than the decomp temp of all possible products in any synthesis really.
 

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I'd say its more about contacting the most surface area, a flame wouldn't be that efficient, but if you had some sort of hot metal screen to blow the air through, ike a catalytic converter has...Setting up to run it down your drain pipe, pushed past the water trap has been the popular way since the 80's. I've known people who go to a hotel and make meth at at the hotel, usinf this method and in thier mind it's safer because thety aren't at home, . I can see benefits of it, but Depending on your situation it may not be any safer. I've caught people cooking meth in a hotel before. People I didn't know. They were lucky it was me who caught them because I acted like I didn't see or smell anything someone else might have turned them in. Matter of fact, its a local hotel and it has been modified to have a secret room where they make meth steadily
 

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Speaking of the devil, just made a post on the legal section with this attachment..

This book is all about avoid lab detection !

GREAT INFO :)
 

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