Uma nova ideia para evitar a detecção em laboratório.

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Outro dia, alguém me enviou uma mensagem privada perguntando sobre maneiras de eliminar os inevitáveis odores associados a laboratórios químicos clandestinos. Como qualquer pessoa com experiência sabe, os odores produzidos durante as reações químicas podem variar de característicos até a verdadeira eutanásia. Analisei a lista de métodos comuns, como a velha mangueira que desce pelo vaso sanitário, a instalação de uma cortina de água, a liberação dos vapores pela chaminé para ofuscar a origem etc., e então comecei a pensar na possível eficácia de uma ideia nova que nunca vi na prática. Eis que um produto apareceu na minha tela em um anúncio da Amazon nas mídias sociais que eu nunca tinha visto antes e aqui está ele para sua apreciação. Um combuster catalítico de cerâmica. Ele é para um fogão a lenha e usa o calor produzido por ele para aquecer o catalisador, mas acho que um elemento de queimador de fogão de 6" preso à frente funcionaria muito bem. Com isso em seu tubo de saída (e o elemento do queimador), acredito que torraria praticamente qualquer cheiro, e o catalisador, o queimador e um reostato para controlar a temperatura devem custar menos de US$ 200 novos (e o queimador e o botão do fogão podem ser gratuitos para muitos de nós). Apenas pensei em apresentar a ideia e abrir um diálogo para discutir o potencial.

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Com certeza, filtro de carvão ativado? como para o cultivo de ervas daninhas/ foi isso que vi funcionar... na frente dos meus olhos em casa f/e. Provavelmente é um filtro de carvão ativado, mas não sinto cheiro de nada e não recebi nenhuma menção de meus vizinhos! Não quando eu estava cultivando maconha ou quando faço sínteses rs
 

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É legal, mas certamente também precisaria haver reações quentes para que ele fosse ativado. Estou fazendo um monte de reações geladas no momento.... funcionaria para isso? Ou você quer dizer aquecê-lo separadamente...
 

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Sim, você teria que aquecê-lo separadamente. Acho que mencionei que um queimador de fogão na face poderia funcionar
 

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Ah, sim, entendi, desculpe. Erro meu. Muito legal.
Mas não é basicamente da mesma forma que os filtros de carvão ativado funcionam? Presumo que o formato dos orifícios retenha os odores? De qualquer forma, é muito legal.
Acho que, com os filtros de carvão, se alguém o vir, só poderá ser duvidoso, de uma forma ou de outra (suponho que a menos que você viva em um país onde é permitido cultivar sua própria erva (onde ninguém saberia o que é o item acima!)
 

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No. -ctuivated carbon filters work on the principle that carbon has a lot of surface are to trap bad smells, but it wont stop vapors from poisoning you. This is a catalytic converter like your car has, it uses high heat to break down gaseous acids bases irritants ect, and as a side note it eliminates odors by exposing them to high heat. Id be surprised if a carbon filter would sustain being gassed by hcl for very long
 

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I live where it is legal, and people still use the carbon filters, so their house doesn't smell like weed, so WVERYONE doesn't know they are growing, that can also invite problems , and we had someone stay with us during harvest one time and she left because there was a lot of weed drying everywhere in the house
 

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Two boxes and some spray foam?
 

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A veil cover that allows air ventilation

Activate charcoal (absorb pollution and fumes)

Avoid acquaintances and strangers from having any sort of information knowledge of such a clandestine lab

Do not have your laboratory supplies nor lab chemicals no drugs shipped via parcel mail to the same address that you do your lab cooking

Night time

Invest in a fume hood

Don't have a reason for law enforcement to be knocking on the door of the place where you have your laboratory
 

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One of the hardest lessons I've ever learned."dont make the mistake thinking yours is the first snakeless crew .the world don't give a f*ck about your life or what you're going through "
 

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Would be funny to see if you could just use a cat converter from a car x3
Actually thats not a bad idea
Maybe worth a shot..?
 

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I'm sure it would work if you can get the cats up to temperature. That's the whole trick, in your car the exhaust heats it up to a pretty high temperature. I've heard of people smashing the catalyst and using it in reaction, platinum and pallidium.
 

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Yeah ive used them as is with some vapour phase stuff works great just use a heating strip to get it up 2 temp
 

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We are basically just leading our fumes into a DIY furnace chimney here, no? One could easily set up a succession of various traps to lead and scrub fumes through. Down the drain. Buckets of kitty litter. Other tubes of filter charcoal and what not. High temp is a less popular choice (and one of the better options if you can do it, I think) It would be best to destroy as much 'evidence' as possible on the way out before you try to clean and obscure it before it is dispersed back into the world.
 

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couldnt you also lead the gases into the air intake of a bunsen? Should also work obviously smaller scale though
 

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This is the right idea. IDK if a bunsen would burn hot enough? You want those ridiculously high industrial temps.
 

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You arent gonna get much hotter with this thingy because you're going to have to heat it separately.........probably with a bunsen....

Also look up the temp of a gas flame it is definitely higher than the decomp temp of all possible products in any synthesis really.
 

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I'd say its more about contacting the most surface area, a flame wouldn't be that efficient, but if you had some sort of hot metal screen to blow the air through, ike a catalytic converter has...Setting up to run it down your drain pipe, pushed past the water trap has been the popular way since the 80's. I've known people who go to a hotel and make meth at at the hotel, usinf this method and in thier mind it's safer because thety aren't at home, . I can see benefits of it, but Depending on your situation it may not be any safer. I've caught people cooking meth in a hotel before. People I didn't know. They were lucky it was me who caught them because I acted like I didn't see or smell anything someone else might have turned them in. Matter of fact, its a local hotel and it has been modified to have a secret room where they make meth steadily
 

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Speaking of the devil, just made a post on the legal section with this attachment..

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