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Secondo il codice dei regolamenti federali
Le seguenti sostanze chimiche sono state specificamente designate dall'Amministratore della Drug Enforcement Administration come sostanze chimiche elencate soggette alle disposizioni di questa parte e delle parti 1309 e 1313 di questo capitolo. A ciascuna sostanza chimica è stato assegnato il numero di codice chimico DEA riportato a fianco.


(a) Sostanze chimiche dell'elenco I
(1) Alfa-fenilacetoacetonitrile e suoi sali, isomeri ottici e sali di isomeri ottici (APAAN)8512
(2) Acido antranilico, suoi esteri e suoi sali8530
(3) Cianuro di benzile8735
(4) Efedrina, suoi sali, isomeri ottici e sali di isomeri ottici8113
(5) Ergonovina e suoi sali8675
(6) Ergotamina e suoi sali8676
(7) Acido N-acetilantranilico, suoi esteri e suoi sali8522
(8) Norpseudoefedrina, suoi sali, isomeri ottici e sali di isomeri ottici8317
(9) Acido fenilacetico, suoi esteri e suoi sali8791
(10) Fenilpropanolamina, suoi sali, isomeri ottici e sali di isomeri ottici1225
(11) Piperidina e suoi sali2704
(12) Pseudoefedrina, suoi sali, isomeri ottici e sali di isomeri ottici8112
(13) 3,4-metilendiossifenil-2-propanone8502
(14) Metilammina e suoi sali8520
(15) Etilammina e suoi sali8678
(16) Anidride propionica8328
(17) Isosafrolo8704
(18) Safrolo8323
(19) Piperonale8750
(20) N-metilefedrina, suoi sali, isomeri ottici e sali di isomeri ottici (N-metilefedrina)8115
(21) N-metilpseudoefedrina, suoi sali, isomeri ottici e sali di isomeri ottici8119
(22) Acido idriodico6695
(23) Benzaldeide8256
(24) Nitroetano6724
(25) Gamma-butirrolattone (altri nomi includono: GBL; diidro-2 (3H)-furanone; 1,2-butanolide; 1,4-butanolide; lattone dell'acido 4-idrossibutanoico; lattone dell'acido gamma-idrossibutirrico)2011
(26) Fosforo rosso6795
(27) Fosforo bianco (Altri nomi: fosforo giallo)6796
(28) Acido ipofosforoso e suoi sali (compresi ipofosfito di ammonio, ipofosfito di calcio, ipofosfito di ferro, ipofosfito di potassio, ipofosfito di manganese, ipofosfito di magnesio e ipofosfito di sodio)6797
(29) N-fenetil-4-piperidone (NPP)8332
(30) Iodio6699
(31) Ergocristina e suoi sali8612
(32) N-(1-benzilpiperidin-4-il)-N-fenilpropionamide(benzilfentanil) e suoi sali8334
(33) N-fenilpiperidin-4-ammina(4-anilinopiperidina; N-fenil-4-piperidinammina; 4-AP), le sue ammidi, i suoi carbammati, i suoi alogenuri, i suoi sali e qualsiasi loro combinazione, ogniqualvolta sia possibile la loro esistenza8335
(34) 3,4-MDP-2-P metilglicidato (glicidato PMK) e i suoi isomeri ottici e geometrici8535
(35) acido 3,4-MDP-2-P metilglicidico (acido glicidico PMK) e suoi sali, isomeri ottici e geometrici e sali di isomeri 8525
(36) Alfa-fenilacetoacetammide (APAA) e suoi isomeri ottici8515
(37) alfa-fenilacetoacetato di metile (MAPA; 3-osso-2-fenilbutanoato di metile) e suoi isomeri ottici8795
(38) 4-piperidone (piperidin-4-one), i suoi acetali, le sue ammidi, i suoi carbammati, i suoi sali e i sali dei suoi acetali, delle sue ammidi e dei suoi carbammati e qualsiasi loro combinazione, ogniqualvolta sia possibile la loro esistenza.8330
(39) 1-boc-4-AP(tert-butil 4-(fenilammino)piperidina-1-carbossilato) e suoi sali8336

(b) Prodotti chimici dell'elenco II:
(1) Anidride acetica8519
(2) Acetone6532
(3) Cloruro di benzile8570
(4) Etere etilico6584
(5) Permanganato di potassio6579
(6) 2-butanone (o metiletilchetone o MEK)6714
(7) Toluene6594
(8) Acido cloridrico (compreso il cloruro di idrogeno anidro)6545
(9) Acido solforico6552
(10) Metil isobutil chetone (MIBK)6715
(11) Permanganato di sodio6588

fonte: https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-21/chapter-II/part-1310/section-1310.02

Al momento, i precursori per la sintesi di mefedrone, a-PVP, cannabinoidi e persino alcune fonti di BMK sono legali.

Allo stesso tempo, non incontriamo fornitori di reagenti sul mercato nero. E ci sono pochi laboratori che si occupano della sintesi di sostanze finite.

Il nostro progetto è pronto ad aiutare i team a entrare nel mercato grigio dei precursori, possiamo fornire le consulenze necessarie, raccomandare fornitori dall'Asia, così come aiutare a stabilire la sintesi dei precursori.

Invitiamo inoltre tutti gli interessati a discutere di questo argomento.
 

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Ho studiato il mercato e gli americani stanno perdendo la testa per mettere le mani su a-pvp e 4mmc. I fattori limitanti sono rispettivamente la pirrolidina e la metilammina (entrambi nell'elenco 2).
 

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La pirrolidina non la vedo elencata.
Per quanto riguarda la metilammina, ho una domanda: esiste una concentrazione legale?
 

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Molto bene, grazie per l'elenco :]
 

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Sembra che non mi sia rimasto nulla da vendere.
 

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Grazie per aver messo insieme questo testo
 

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I am trying to synthesis
N-Phenethyl-Piperidone (NPP)
Already tried for it in my lab, but I failed
Anyone please help me..
 

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Nah.
Usa will seize much more chemicals shipped to usa from china doesnt matter if they are on this list or no.
 

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I know why you can't become major drug lords. This is not meant to disrespect you, but it's a lack of wisdom; I can only say you are small-time dealers. Unfortunately, I can't reveal more. I can only silently watch you waste your time. In terms of cost and life, you are not worth it. Once again, I mean no disrespect."
 

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Indeed kettle. It seems lack of wisdom caused you to make this post, no offense. perhaps you could do some research?
 

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I saw a couple of benign seeming chemicals yesterday on Alibaba,mand when I looked up the cas# and the wire model, I said" hmm, that sure looks a lot like aminorex or 4-mar. Some others were indole derivatives, and 3,5 methylene-dioxy phenylethlamines, looking like 1 legged frogs and shit i sure would like to come across a route to 4-mar or similar that didn't involve the unobtainium ( I forget what it even is, but it's a cyanide derivative) or something from betel nuts that isn't paxil
 

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Only relevant to the US.

I'm no lawyer, but the analogue act only applies to schedule 1 and 2 chemicals.

So if it is lower schedule, or any other list, a simple change from say a chemical with a methyl group, to an ethyl group, should make it legal.

For example, sold here is 1,3-Benzodioxole-5-acetic acid, α-acetyl-, methyl ester. It is now on the DEA Special Surveillance List, which means they consider it used for drug production. However, theoretically, if you had the ethyl Ester, or 1,3-Benzodioxole-5-acetic acid, α-acetyl-, ethyl ester, then you might have a chance at getting away with it.

Granted, the US authorities aren't exactly known for doing legal things or their good practices....

I'm more interested in the MDMA precursors, and there is still a fair amount of theoretical wiggle room for legal precursors. If you just look at the precursors for p2p, there are likely ones that can be produced for mdma as well.

If the chemical is not listed anywhere, you are safest. There are few that aren't listed, like I think the ethyl Ester I mentioned, and diacetylphenyl malonate (p2p) are not listed. Not much else isn't.

We have probably another 4 or 5 years before more are added, stock up while you can.
 

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I agree about the analog act only aspllying to schedule one and 2, but in other parts of the literature it talks about intent and if the person possesing such material BELIEVES it is a cns acting drug, even if it is not, it is considered a drug. There's been talk about the ambiguity of the act and it's enforeability (between lawyers and judges, not between people on a drug chemistry board) but I'd hate to be the one to find out. I actually founf several aminorex analogs for saile on black ops, several other very desireable and hard to find chemicals too. A-pvp at $600/ounce, which isright at the top of the price point imo, but just to even have it...
 

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seems to me indole-3-carbaldehyde or some other aldehyde and MEK aught to land you at MDp2p. I've thought about it for exactly 5 seconds, but it seems logical and something doable(parellel to benzaldehyde +mek=p2p)
 
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